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Welcome to the North American Generator Forum


The North American Generator Forum (NAGF) was founded in 2009 as a vehicle for generator owners and/or operators to address issues related to registration, compliance, standards development and other NERC-related topics. In 2013, the North American Generator Forum, Inc. became a non-profit, dues-based corporation.

We provide entities who are generator owners and operators in North America a means to collaborate and communicate with FERC, NERC, the Regional Entities, the Canadian Provinces and other organizations with missions similar to ours, with the ultimate goal of improving the reliability of the bulk power system. 

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RECENT ACTIVITY

Said: : "I took a look at the graphs in the PSS commissioning report where the gain was stepped up from 1X (15 pu) up to 4X (60 pu). The AVR output oscillations observably grow at at the 3X point (45 db). So if I split the difference between 2X ...
Said: : "Ted Risher wrote:" If "instability gain" is the same as "maximum practical gain", ..." It is not. Instability gain is another way of defining gain margin. You take a unit to the point of instability--i.e. instability gain point. You se...
Said: : "Thank you all for your prompt responses. I agree that there is some wiggle room in defining "maximum practical gain", although the Guidelines and Technical Basis section of VAR-501-WECC-3.1 states the following: "The maximum practical ga...
Said: : "Ted Risher wrote:" A Generator Owner that I work with in WECC asked their PSS vendor (GE) if they had any issues with VAR-501-WECC-3.1 requirement 3.3. It turns out that they have a design philosophy to set the gain at 1/4 of the maximum...
Said: : "I spoke with GE, we have an ongoing exciter replacement project with them, when the WECC wording came out. They were concerned, relating what Ted says about preferred gain, and contacted WECC about it. WECC's response was to start a SAR...
Said: : "The WECC Standards Development Procedures permit SARs to be submitted for revision or interpretation on the regional reliability standard. See page 6 of https://www.wecc.org/Reliability/WECC%20Reliability%20Standards%20Development%20Pro...
Said: : "Sergio. Did anything ever come out of this survey? A Generator Owner that I work with in WECC asked their PSS vendor (GE) if they had any issues with VAR-501-WECC-3.1 requirement 3.3. It turns out that they have a design philosophy to ...
Said: : "NAGF, Back in the EPRI Power Plant NERC Standards days, ETAP came in and made a presentation on using the ETAP tool to help with NERC Standards activities and plant config control. I've attached the presentations made then. I have su...
Said: : "The PRC white paper and SAR request is now out for comment from the PC. Standard_Authorization_Request_SAR_PRC-019_Rev 3.7.1 ces comments.docx PRC-019 SAR White Paper ces comments.docx Responses to the comments made in this discussion ...
Said: : "Bill's outlook on PRC-005-1 applicability could be traced to the NERC's White paper having cited Protection Systems "of" GSUs and aux transformers (i.e. the line-ups shown next to this equipment on the one-line diagram), while it includes...
Said: : "Here is a slightly different interpretation for PRC-005-1, -2, and -6:   The protection system elements contained within excitation control systems is there to provide protection for the generator.    It is not protection for the excitati...
Said: : "All, As mentioned on the call last Friday, one of our member companies has done a deep dive to determine when the protective functions of AVRs first came to fall under PRC-005. Below is their interpretation. Does anyone see it differently...
Said: : "YES! Ameren would like to participate in a Peer Review through the NAGF. I will look at which standards we are interested in reviewing this week, and respond to this thread shortly!"
Said: : "I have created a recurring weekly meeting to draft the next communication to NERC on this topic (SAR or implementation guidance?). The first meeting will be held this Friday, March 22nd at 1PM EDT, chaired by Alison MacKellar. See the Gro...
Said: : "Thanks, Mike. I will attend. Mark"
Said: : "I've added a web meeting on the Groupsite calendar so we can discuss the feedback from NERC and develop a response. March 15th, 11AM EDT -Mike"
Said: : "A clarification is needed in that the expression, "trip the unit," does not appear in PRC-005-6, which instead applies to devices that "trip the generator either directly or via lockout or auxiliary tripping relays." A V/Hz relay in the ...

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